You're starting to see some of the pushers, the amplifiers start to talk about citizen canvasses, where they want volunteers to start going out and knocking on doors throughout the various states. the constant goalpost moving of - you mentioned the Arizona 'fraudit' or the fake audit that took place out there. "And I think we're starting to see some of the seeds of that happen today with. So I fully expect to see that happen again. It was the activation of the amplification that had been taking place for almost, what, nine months at that point. And then fifth is you take it to the real world, and that's what January 6th was. We saw that on Newsmax, OAN, Bannon's War Room, all these fringe networks. Fourth, is you take it mainstream, and we saw that on Fox News. And the third is you start hitting that on the platforms, Facebook, Twitter or elsewhere. And that happened through some of the president's acolytes, aides and even his own family. The second was you start putting accounts into place and getting your amplifiers. And here, it was election disinformation. "But first, you start with identifying the issue you want to drive out. And it's effectively a five-step process. In 2019, we released an awareness campaign called the War on Pineapple, and the idea here was to educate the American people on how disinformation operations work. And in fact, we essentially at CISA, we predicted this. How concerned are you that these conspiracy theories get massively amplified into the 2022 midterms next year? Could this spill over into actual physical disorder?Ĭhris Krebs: “It's already happened, right? January 6th was a physical manifestation of disinformation around the 2020 election. "And I think there is a significant obligation across the social media platforms to do a better job of being transparent in how certain actors certain so to speak, super-spreaders of disinformation, to limit the reach or at least provide insight to researchers and journalists on how their platforms are being abused at the expense of democracy, now.” So to your broader question, what is the role of technology? So it actually works to his incentive, or to his interest, to continue driving these lies. He's got hundreds of millions of dollars in a political action committee war chest. He can have these rallies and continue to amplify the lies, and activate his base. "In fact, the incentive structures work the other way. But look, the point here more than anything is there are no consequences, effectively, for the former president to spew these lies. Despite having hundreds of takers, he then claimed that no one took him up on his offer, and so he rescinded his offer for a debate. … He challenged anyone, any takers to a debate on the credibility of the 2020 election. On how conspiracy theories threaten electionsĬhris Krebs: “Earlier this week, I believe it was over the weekend or maybe late last week, the former president issued a statement. Co-chair of the Commission on Information Disorder. Rashad Robinson, president of Color of Change. He served as director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency in the DHS from November 2018 to November 2020. GuestsĬhris Krebs, partner at the Krebs Stamos Group. Today, On Point: Conspiracy theories and the threat their spread poses to democracy with Chris Krebs. That's according to none other than Christopher Krebs, the man once in charge of the federal Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency. What's the biggest threat to American elections, and to people's trust in them? (AP Photo/Jon Elswick, File) This article is more than 1 year old. A public service announcement from the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security cybersecurity agency.
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